February 2, 2010

And so it begins ...


Discuss the season premier in comments.

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13 comments:

Joyce Saenz Harris said...

Where to begin? Jacob is dead, but still walking. Juliet is dead, but still talking [to Miles]. Sayid is dead...no, he's not. But I'm betting he'll be different somehow, just as Richard said little Ben would be when they saved him. We know what happened to Cindy and little Zack and Emma. And whoa, the MiB is a nasty piece of work. And he wants to go home!

And in the alternate reality, Jack and John might become friends... Kate's still running... Sun's still pretending not to know English... Charlie's about to go cold turkey in jail... Captain Seth Norris is still flying... Desmond was for some reason on Oceanic 815, and then he vanished... Christian Shephard's corpse is still MIA... Boone is alive... Bernard and Rose are together... Frogurt and Arzt are still annoying...

Almost too much to comprehend, but wow. I am blown away.

Joyce Saenz Harris said...

Oh, and I almost forgot: In the alternate reality, the Island is at the bottom of the ocean!

Josh said...

Not only is the island at the bottom of the ocean, but I am fairly certain that I saw a dharma shark.

Glad to see Sayid pull through; however, I agree that he will be changed.

I've never been so interested in Richard's storyline as I am right now.

Sigh of relief at the end...I was concerned about our girl Claire.

Can barely wait until next week.

Jen Emily said...

I found the what if storyline (or is it an alternate reality) the most interesting. Loved the Jack/Locke interaction there.

If The Man in Black aka Esau (not Johnny Cash) can inhabit Locke, can Jacob inhabit someone else?

I found the temple people odd. They seemed to have clothing from all different periods. Is that to signify when they came to the temple or just that they're weird?

Stella said...

Jen, I agree with you that the alternate reality storyline was the most interesting. I loved seeing everyone on the plane and the slow motion effect at the end of the first hour of the show. Very nicely done.

Not sure what to make of the temple scenes. But I am intriqued by Sayid's resurrection. Could it actually be Jacob in his body?

And could the fact that Desmond was on the plane sitting next to Jack mean that somehow this alternate reality is not just a "what if" the plane had never crashed but that somehow when the bomb went off, it affected other characters' fate. Don't know if I'm making sense here. I guess if the bomb went off in the 1970s then there would never be a reason for Desmond to be on the island right?

Help!

Jen Emily said...

And, Jin and Sun are in the same time and nearly in the same place!

Anna said...

I'm really hoping that Jacob is reincarnated in Sayid. Perhaps that's why he visited Hurley to begin with.

Maybe I missed it and will have to defer to the DVR, but where was Shannon and why wasn't she sitting with Boone? Do you think we are going to see other characters (ie Michael, Ana Lucia, etc.) in the next few episodes?

Joyce Saenz Harris said...

Anna, Boone explained to Locke on the plane that he'd gone to Sydney to get his sister out of a bad relationship, but it turned out she didn't want to get out of it. So she was not on the plane with him.

I'm still trying to figure out why Desmond was on the plane, and then he seemed to be gone. Does it have something to do with his super-specialness in relation to time?

Marissa said...

There is a Q&A with Team Darlton on EW.com about last night's epsode. Here's a quote from Lindelof about the first few minutes of the episode and what they want viewers to be thinking about who was and wasn't on the plane.

LINDELOF: Right out of the gate, in the first five minutes of the premiere, you get hit over the head with two things that you’re not expecting. The first is that Desmond is on the plane. The second thing that we do is we drop out of the plane and we go below the water and we see that the Island is submerged. What we’re trying to do there is basically say to you, “God bless the survivors of Oceanic 815, because they’re so self-centered, they thought the only effect [of detonating the bomb] was going to be that their plane never crashes.” But they don’t stop to think, “If we do this in 1977, what else is going to affected by this?” So that their entire lives can be changed radically. In fact, it would appear that they’ve sunken the Island. That’s our way of saying, “Keep your eyes peeled for the differences that you’re not expecting.” Some of these characters were still in Australia, but some weren’t. Shannon’s not there. Boone actually says that he tried to get her back. There are all sorts of other people that we don’t see. Where’s Libby? Where’s Ana Lucia? Where’s Eko? These are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.


Also, Lindelof talks about how he doesn't want viewers to look at the new storyline as an alternate reality. Here is his explanation about it:

LINDELOF: For us, the big risk that we’re taking in the final season of the show is basically this very question. [Lindelof then explains the show has replaced the trademark “whoosh!” sound effect marking the segue between Island present story and flashbacks or flash-forwards, thus calling conspicuous attention to the relationship between the Island world and the Sideways world.] This is the critical mystery of the season, which is, “What is the relationship between these two shows?” And we don’t use the phrase “alternate reality,” because to call one of them an “alternate reality” is to infer that one of them isn’t real, or one of them is real and the other is the alternate to being real.

CUSE: But the questions you’re asking are exactly the right questions. What are we to make of the fact that they’re showing us two different timelines? Are they going to resolve? Are they going to connect? Are they going to co-exist in parallel fashion? Are they going to cross? Do they intersect? Does one prove to be viable and the other one not? I think those are all the kind of speculations that are the right speculations to be having at this point in the season.

LINDELOF: But it is going to require patience. We’ve taught the audience how to be patient thus far, so while they’re getting a lot of mythological answers on the island early in the season, this idea of what is the relationship between the two [worlds] is a little bit more of a slow burn.

marissa said...

More thoughts....

I like the theory that Jacob may now be manifesting himself through Sayid. But I'm not sold on it quite yet.

It may be this is a new Sayid who won't remember much or anything about his past life, a life where he tortured and murdered people. Maybe that's what the healing water does. It saves you, but you won't remember anything about your life before. Maybe it redeems you too. But little Ben was a fairly good kid before he was shot. And then Richard or whoever took him to the temple so he could be saved. We never found out how exactly he was healed, but maybe he was dunked in the water. But Ben turned out to be a villain. Maybe it'll be the opposite for Sayid. Maybe he'll be more angelic compared to before



I read somewhere last night that even little Ben didn't remember much about his life after Richard took him to the temple to be healed, so he could survive the gunshot wound. We still never really learned just how little Ben was healed, but it was probably in the same way. He was dunked in the water.

marissa said...

In my post above, I forgot to delete the last graf. I repeated myself.

Jen Emily said...

So Fake Locke wants to go home.

Any thoughts on where home might be?

Is he like the fallen angel kicked out of heaven and now he desperately wants to return?

Back to Richard being in chains ... Could that have been when he was on the ship, the Black Rock?

Stella said...

Marissa, I like your idea about the "healing water" and Sayid being saved and leading a better life than before. But I guess if Jacob is who ultimately is in Sayid, then Sayid is probably really dead just like Locke.

I thought it was interesting that the producers got rid of the show's trademark "whoosh" sound effect between present and past or future storylines. I didn't even notice that last night.