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Well...the Island story was actually pretty compelling this week. More on that later.
Back in Sideways World 2004, Sayid came to alt-LA to see Nadia, all right -- but Nadia is his sister-in-law now, married to Sayid's older brother, and the mother of Sayid's adorable little niece and nephew. We do catch a glimpse of Jack at St. Sebastian's -- and we also meet the two chief freighter mercenaries, Omar and big bad Martin Keamy, as some loan-shark gangsters. Oh, and Sayid discovers Jin bound and gagged in a walk-in refrigerator. Guess we know now why he had all that cash in "LA X."
Back on the Island, it appears that Sayid's gone over to the Dark Side of the Force. And gone over willingly, too, all because UnLocke/MiB promised Sayid that he could have anything in the world that he wanted. Yes, he could even have Nadia back from the dead. (Did this exchange between UnLocke and Sayid remind anyone else of Satan tempting Christ in the desert?)
Did Claire also go over willingly because UnLocke/MiB -- perhaps also using the guise of Dear Old Dead Dad -- promised her that they would help her get Aaron back?
Maybe it's not just that the evil infection "claims" MiB's victims and turns their hearts dark. Maybe they have to want to go over to his side, and they do it because he promises them something they dearly want.
James was MiB's "first recruit," according to the enhanced version of "The Substitute." But we haven't seen James since then. Where is he? Is he pulling a long con on MiB? Would he come over to the dark side just to get off the Island, as MiB promised?
Or did MiB perhaps promise James the same thing that he promised Sayid -- to bring his beloved back to life?
Where is Jin? Was he left behind at Claire's jungle camp because of his leg injury?
And Kate -- oh, Kate, you idiot. Always in the wrong place at the wrong time! Kate, dear girl, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In this case, it might be quite literally the road to hell.
All the other Losties are following Ilana, who's getting them out of the Temple and away from Smokey using Jacob's secret back door. And there's Kate, running off on her little side mission, determined to rescue Feral Claire, who is quite clearly a barking lunatic.
No good deed goes unpunished, Kate! But at least now, caught unwittingly up in MiB's tribe, Kate will probably get to see James again.
Meanwhile, Lennon and Yoko -- excuse me, Dogen -- are dead in the water, murdered by Sayid's hand. At least now we know why Dogen had that baseball, and we know why we saw him with his son last week in alt-LA. Very sad.
I finally watched the show last night after having to work way too late.
I was on the edge of my seat for the island scenes. For me, it was the first time this whole season that the island scene was more compelling than the sideways reality.
I'm curious if choosing between the MiB and Jacob is about revealing your true nature or are Sayid and Claire just easily corrupted because they want Nadia and Aaron, respectively.
There's been chatter about whether the Mib/Fake Locke are really bad. I'm pretty sure that if Mib/Fake Locke would lead Sayid to kill, then he's probably as bad as we thought. Although think of all the horrible things people have done over the years in the name of religion because they twist meanings.
I am definitely in the MiB=evil camp. I'm just not sure yet if Jacob is as good as we first thought.
Claire, like Jacob in last week's episode, said that he's coming. Claire also said that he can't be stopped. Who could it be? Who could the MiB want to come to the island? Widmore?
Did Jack's smashing of the lighthouse mirror's stop or maybe delay the arrival of this person?
I'm hoping to see more of Desmond but I don't think it's him.
And, really, what the hell is up with Kate. She has to have an inkling or more than an inkling that Claire is not the old Claire and that following the Mib/Fake Locke is a bad idea. Is she really following them?
Why did Jacob want to save Hurley and Jack from all this but not the others?
Also need to point out, I loved the way Ben backed away from Sayid when he realized that Sayid was infected. Great acting there, as always.
Jen, I totally agree with you that for the first time, the Island scenes really had me on the edge of my seat. Alt-Sayid's LA scenes certainly paralleled nicely with what was happening on the Island. But aside from a few big surprises (Nadia's married to Sayid's brother?! Keamy's here, and cooking eggs?! Jin's in the fridge?!), I was much more engaged with the Island story, which is picking up speed at an alarming rate now.
Re alt-Sayid: Did we ever see him look in a mirror? I don't think so. We saw him reflected a couple of times in shiny surfaces -- but never did we see him studying himself in a mirror as Jack, Locke and Kate all did in their Sideways scenes. I think that must mean something. I also didn't see him look at Jack or Jin as if he somehow recognized them. That may mean something, too.
I think Claire and Sayid are MiB's prime recruits because (1) they were "infected" and (2) he offered something they wanted enough to surrender themselves to him -- namely, the chance to have their lost loved ones back. He lied to Claire about where Aaron was and obviously she does not even remember abandoning her baby.
I think James will be different, though. He's not dead/infected, for one thing. For another, he's still got his con-man smarts, and when he sees Claire, he will know that MiB lied to her about Aaron. And therefore, that MiB probably also is lying to James. (I don't think it's coincidence that the Sawyer-centric episode, coming up in a couple of weeks, is called "Recon.")
When Claire told Kate, "He's coming, and they can't stop him," she meant Smokey, I am sure -- he had not yet entered the Temple at that time, but arrived right after.
Jacob's peeps are still on their way, however. Not sure why, but I kinda think it might be Widmore and Eloise, joining forces to save the Island from MiB.
And Desmond is sure to pop up soon, although it may be Des in a timeflash-type appearance, as on "LA X," when he was on Oceanic 815 with Jack, and then suddenly not. I think Des will be jumping in and out of that reality as he did in "The Constant" -- or perhaps more as he did in "Flashes Before Your Eyes," which for him was very much like the current 2004 alt-reality is for Jack et al. Certain events, sights, sounds and people seemed very familiar to Des, but he could not place them.
I think that, because Eloise said the Island is not done with Des yet, he's fated to return somehow -- perhaps not physically, as he told Penny he would never leave her. Perhaps his consciousness will be leaping back and forth, as seemed to happen when he appeared for a while on 815 in "LA X."
Kate, I think, is just kind of tagging after Claire at this point. She separated from Miles and thus missed the escape of Ilana's group from the Temple. Now she's stuck with Locke's tribe because she has no idea where the rest of her friends are. She was obviously stunned to see what appeared to be John Locke alive and well, because she knows very well that John Locke is dead. She also has no idea yet that Claire wants to kill her for taking Aaron. If MiB wants to recruit Kate, though, and if he's not allowed to kill her (if she's a candidate), what could he offer to her as a bribe? What would Kate want that badly? Maybe...her freedom, once she is back home in LA?
I just had a chance to watch the episode. I totally agree w/ Joyce on the parallel between the scene w/ Sayid and UnLocke being like Satan tempting Christ. Exactly what I thought. The closer we get to the end, the more I'm reminded of the great TV series of Stephen King's "The Stand." I am starting to see a lot of similarities of the taking sides between good and evil in a final, epic battle.
We definitely didn't see Sayid in a mirror. I was looking for it. What it means, I'm not sure.
Kate and Jack seem more into examining their lives and what went wrong. Sayid has continually expressed why he is not redeemable. Perhaps the lack of interest in looking inward has something to do with it? I'm not sure.
But we did see Locke look in a mirror although not as long as Jack and Kate.
I'll miss next week's episode while I'm on vacation. But I'll tune in as soon as I return. I can't wait!
I think those who join FakeLocke/MiB want something that they themselves cannot obtain them and must rely on the devil to bring it back. For Claire and Sayid, it is something tangible. Perhaps those more interested in redemption, bettering themselves, etc. can find what they want through Jacob or God/god. Not that I am equating Jacob with God. Although that may be what ultimately happens.
Jen, this is interesting. I was just listening to Jorge Garcia's podcast, "Geronimo Jack's Beard," and he specifically notes that in the first scene of the show, where Sayid arrives at Nadia's house, the "Sundown" script says: "There is something off about Sayid's reflection in the door." Aha!
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