Ben killed Locke! Locke's alive?!?!?!?
What changed for Ben that he went from talking Locke down to strangling him? Was it Jin being alive or the mention of Mrs. Hawking?
WAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLT!
Well, we're now seven episodes into the season.
What did you think of tonight's episode and the season so far?
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So, last week, I thought that according to John 3:16, believing would mean Jack had eternal life.
But, now it seems to me that Locke believing in the island means that Locke has eternal life?
And, ummm, Ben is truly a psychopath. Beyond whatever I thought before.
Are Locke and Ben a little like Cain and Abel? They are the two "sons" of the island.
Is Ben so jealous, as we have seen befoer with Locke being able to hear Jacob, that something Locke said tonight made him so angry or jealous he killed Locke?
First of all, let me say that Ben must be the worst suicide crisis counselor ever.
Second, any thoughts about what made Ben kill Locke. He seemed like he seriously wanted to save him at first, but everything changed after Locke mentioned that Jin was still alive.
I don't know if it's Jin survival or the potential survival of someone else from the freighter or Locke's unwillingness to try to bring Sun back.
No, i think it was the mention of hawking's name that ended ben's career as a suicide counselor. But since we know that he's working with her, I'm completely at a loss. For many eps now I've been on Ben's side -- even though he's a mass murderer -- thinking that Widmore was the true evil. Now, well, I'm on the fence again.
I agree that Ben's change of heart came when Locke mentioned Eloise Hawking. I need to work out the timeline, but maybe Ben's first interaction with her came after this meeting with Locke. So he somehow wormed into Widmore's route back to the island.
I had at least three WTF? moments during this episode. Still very confused.
But one theory I like -- the "war" that Widmore says is coming ends in the Purge, and sending Locke back (or Jack, Kate and Hurley back in time) somehow changes that outcome. (I have decided to embrace the idea that just because Faraday or Hawking or anyone else says something is true, that doesn't really make it so.)
Yeah, now the show's got us thinking Widmore could be good.
Ben is definitely not.
All those people on Widmore's fake plane that crashed? Did they come from graves or did he have people killed? I can't remember? Have we seen Widmore have anyone killed?
You're right about being on Ben's side. I haven't, but I have. I'm not sure why. He's is a psychotic mass murderer.
But can we believe in Widmore.
I said earlier that Locke and Ben could be the two sons of the island, the Cain and Abel.
But really, maybe it's Ben and Widmore. And although Ben didn't kill Widmore (although maybe he tried), he apparently did cast him out of the Garden of Eden, so to speak.
We already know that Ben has a God complex.
I wasn't surprised that Ben was the one who killed Matthew. But wow, that scene of Ben garroting Locke just stunned me.
I agree, it was the mention of Eloise Hawking that galvanized Ben into murder. Somehow he has wormed his way into coming back to the Island, and he succeeded where Locke failed in gathering the O5 onto Ajira 316. (Although I do think Charlie's ghost probably talked Hugo into it.)
Eloise knows Ben...surely she's let Charles Widmore know he has usurped Locke's leadership role?
But what I don't get is, why bother to murder Locke? Why not just allow him to commit suicide, if the goal is to get his body back to the Island as a proxy for Christian's corpse? Richard seemed to know John would have to die to get the O5 back; Eloise seemed to know it, too. Charles and Matthew didn't seem to agree; their goal seemed to be to get Locke back there alive.
I dunno... I always thought that Charles Widmore would be the Big Bad of the show. But now it's looking like Ben is worse. And if he killed Penny, or even tried to, he's definitely a villain!
I thought the mention of Jin being alive changed everything for Ben, and that seemed confirmed when he looked at the ring at the end of the episode. Now Jin can lead one side instead of John in the upcoming war maybe?? But with John showing up alive and Ben showing up hurt, what the heck??
Ben is evil. He is a mass murderer. How good the writers are to actually make us believe he is doing the right thing at any point.
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